you wrote a book on obama care. what makes you think that employers going from full time to part time for their employees is happening on a lancaster scale basis now? >> you know, the administration does say it's antidotal. almost every day we hear some new company say they have no choice. in order to comply with this law, they are having to put people on part time to save their companies. and when you look at bureau of labor statistics. bureau of labor statistic data, they show that last year, for every new full-time jobs created we have one part-time job. this year for every one new full-time job we have six part time jobs. something dramatic has happened. >> alisyn: in other words, the numbers have flipped in just one year between part time and full-time. explain something to me base the math doesn't add up to me. if it's a 2000 dollars fine to pay for employee to give healthcare coverage to. isn't that cheaper than giving healthcare. >> obama care health insurance is very expensive. you see, even big companies,